Dnes zacali majstrovstva Europy IPSC pistol v Madarsku. Nasim reprezentatntom drzim palce a verim, ze sa tu coskoro budeme moct bavit o zaujimavych umiestneniach vo vysledkovych listinach.
http://www.ipscmatches.org/2016ehc/
European Handgun Championship 2016
Kratky report z Madarska od Boska zo sudednych Rakus. Kto nevie po nemecky, staci pozriet fotky. Myslim, ze u nas by organizatori schytali, ak by bola na takej urovni sutaz Level II a nie to majstrovstva Europy. 
http://www.luckydelta.com/2016/10/05/20 ... mpionship/
http://www.luckydelta.com/2016/10/05/20 ... mpionship/
Strelnica neskutocna, ale ked zaprsi tak i s vybudovanym odvodnenim je to stale boj o zivot 
Vela ludi prestalo chodit na preteky z dovodu mizernej organizacie a nepomeru startovneho/poskytnutych sluzieb!
Vela ludi prestalo chodit na preteky z dovodu mizernej organizacie a nepomeru startovneho/poskytnutych sluzieb!
No kedze uz na organizatorov nadava na socialnych sietach asi cely svet, myslim ze nepoviem nic zakazane, ked spomeniem strielanie stage vecer pri osvetleni svetlometmi auta alebo nedostatok lepicov a teda lepenie si tercov po strelbe samimi sutaziacimi. Coz je nakoniec aj v tom clanku hore. Ako tak pozeram, tak za tych 350 € startovneho mohli dat aspon nejake stany ku stage, aby strelci nemokli, alebo vysypat stage pilinami aby sa strelci nesmykali.
350€ / osobu? to s ubytovanim vratane? 
Iba startovne. Tak ale su to zase majstrovstva Europy - Level IV.
Minuly rok na ME v puske nam tiez hovorili na jedno stage, ze by sme im mohli pomoct s lepenim, tak sme ich odignorovali a sustredili sa na vysledok!
Su skupi zaplatit lepicov a beru to ako ziskovu zalezitost, cize co najviac vybrat a co najmenej poskytnut.
Za tie peniaze nam nedali ani posratu klucenku ci tricko ako spomienku na "skvele" podujatie.
Tyto isti ludia robia aj LIII a 3gun sutaze a kazdym rokom stracaju strelcov svojou nenazranostou a neschopnostou.
Chodil som tam casto a rad, skoda lebo strelnica je neskutocna
Su skupi zaplatit lepicov a beru to ako ziskovu zalezitost, cize co najviac vybrat a co najmenej poskytnut.
Za tie peniaze nam nedali ani posratu klucenku ci tricko ako spomienku na "skvele" podujatie.
Tyto isti ludia robia aj LIII a 3gun sutaze a kazdym rokom stracaju strelcov svojou nenazranostou a neschopnostou.
Chodil som tam casto a rad, skoda lebo strelnica je neskutocna
Myslim, ze Rasto to vystihol.
... ako to povedat, ja myslim, ze kebyze takyto pretek spravim ako dedinsku lvl 1 s 24 stagami za 70 euro, tak by mi to strelci odpustili a prisli aj nabuduce.
Nechce sa mi o tom ani pisat, lebo tam bolo tolko nezvladnutych a nefer veci, ze by to vyzeralo ze vyplakavam. Kto nebol podla mna neuveri, mozno az ked si pozrie fotky co koluju po Facebooku.
.. Zrusenie stagu je jedna z top nefer veci, zrusenie 2 stagov na EHC je priam skandal. Skrie to o to viac ked viete ze vam prave ten jeden naozaj ako jeden z mala vysiel, ale je to relativne... Peto Drimaj si na nom zase dal 3 misi a proceduru, preto sa na organizatorov za to nehneva.
Pre vystiznost pridavam post jedneho z top IPSC strelcov v Divizii Standard, ktory to zhrnul nejako takto (post ma zatial 298 sharov od strelcov ktory tam boli/su) :
OK. This will be a different post than normal: No high fives and smiling faces so please bear with me and read to the end - because I feel that it needs to be said, even though I probably will get hammered for doing so. But here goes:
I've been shooting IPSC for over 23 years, placing decent from time to time including winning two silver medals at previous EHC's. So I'm a pretty experienced shooter and know both good and bad matches. Thankfully the vast majority have been fantastic organized events which I am very grateful for.
However, in my IPSC career I have never seen a worse organized match (including level 3's) than the current EHC 2016. I hate my self for saying it, but it's the truth.
Examples are plenty: Dangerously slippery or sticky ground, fault lines not visible under the mud, low quality targets bending after few raindrops, unpainted steel so difficult to see that shooting became unfair to some shooters, 2 stages cancelled, many reshoots, all clamshell targets deactivated, not sufficient helpers for the RO's, unworthy conditions for RO's, shooters shoveling gravel themselves, shooters requesting the headlight of cars being used to illuminate a stage, opening ceremony with 1200 shooters invited to a castle for food/drinks that wasn't there, etc.. Shooters and RO's fight on and try to keep a happy face, but all are becoming more and more frustrated.
Not being prepared to host an event like this is one thing, but not reacting sufficiently is another. An example of the symbolic improvements are dropping some gravel on "mainroad" next to the stages on the 3rd day of muddy shooting - but not putting it on the muddy stages where the shooters actually run.
The weather is NOT at fault here. It only brought out the insufficient preparation of the match organization: Water resistant targets/patches, tents for the shooters, better drainage, gravel/woodchips on the stages, better stage construction, etc. all could have made a difference. Or even better - change the schedule/location of the match to avoid shooting in cold/rainy conditions. I have been told that the same conditions have happened at previous matches here in Eger. If this is true, then not learning from history is a bitter pill.
I (as I'm sure most other IPSC shooters) have a self image of IPSC being a professionel, legitimate sport on par with UIT/ISSF. I mean, why aren't we in the Olympics, right? But...if this event is representative of what a continental IPSC championship should look like, then it is quite hard for me to uphold that self image of IPSC. I fear this is a setback to our self image that will take us years to overcome.
What should be the next step? How do we move on from here?
Well, we have to learn from the mistakes that happened here to make sure history does not repeat itself. Only so can we start rebuilding our IPSC self image and look forward to future IPSC level 4 matches that will be the fantastic events that IPSC, RO's and 1200 shooters paying a lot of money on entry fee, travel and training all deserve.
Just my 0,02$ worth...You are welcome to share if you agree.
Nejake ilustracne FOTO:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 567&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 567&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 715&type=3
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5864DF0F
Nechce sa mi o tom ani pisat, lebo tam bolo tolko nezvladnutych a nefer veci, ze by to vyzeralo ze vyplakavam. Kto nebol podla mna neuveri, mozno az ked si pozrie fotky co koluju po Facebooku.
.. Zrusenie stagu je jedna z top nefer veci, zrusenie 2 stagov na EHC je priam skandal. Skrie to o to viac ked viete ze vam prave ten jeden naozaj ako jeden z mala vysiel, ale je to relativne... Peto Drimaj si na nom zase dal 3 misi a proceduru, preto sa na organizatorov za to nehneva.
Pre vystiznost pridavam post jedneho z top IPSC strelcov v Divizii Standard, ktory to zhrnul nejako takto (post ma zatial 298 sharov od strelcov ktory tam boli/su) :
OK. This will be a different post than normal: No high fives and smiling faces so please bear with me and read to the end - because I feel that it needs to be said, even though I probably will get hammered for doing so. But here goes:
I've been shooting IPSC for over 23 years, placing decent from time to time including winning two silver medals at previous EHC's. So I'm a pretty experienced shooter and know both good and bad matches. Thankfully the vast majority have been fantastic organized events which I am very grateful for.
However, in my IPSC career I have never seen a worse organized match (including level 3's) than the current EHC 2016. I hate my self for saying it, but it's the truth.
Examples are plenty: Dangerously slippery or sticky ground, fault lines not visible under the mud, low quality targets bending after few raindrops, unpainted steel so difficult to see that shooting became unfair to some shooters, 2 stages cancelled, many reshoots, all clamshell targets deactivated, not sufficient helpers for the RO's, unworthy conditions for RO's, shooters shoveling gravel themselves, shooters requesting the headlight of cars being used to illuminate a stage, opening ceremony with 1200 shooters invited to a castle for food/drinks that wasn't there, etc.. Shooters and RO's fight on and try to keep a happy face, but all are becoming more and more frustrated.
Not being prepared to host an event like this is one thing, but not reacting sufficiently is another. An example of the symbolic improvements are dropping some gravel on "mainroad" next to the stages on the 3rd day of muddy shooting - but not putting it on the muddy stages where the shooters actually run.
The weather is NOT at fault here. It only brought out the insufficient preparation of the match organization: Water resistant targets/patches, tents for the shooters, better drainage, gravel/woodchips on the stages, better stage construction, etc. all could have made a difference. Or even better - change the schedule/location of the match to avoid shooting in cold/rainy conditions. I have been told that the same conditions have happened at previous matches here in Eger. If this is true, then not learning from history is a bitter pill.
I (as I'm sure most other IPSC shooters) have a self image of IPSC being a professionel, legitimate sport on par with UIT/ISSF. I mean, why aren't we in the Olympics, right? But...if this event is representative of what a continental IPSC championship should look like, then it is quite hard for me to uphold that self image of IPSC. I fear this is a setback to our self image that will take us years to overcome.
What should be the next step? How do we move on from here?
Well, we have to learn from the mistakes that happened here to make sure history does not repeat itself. Only so can we start rebuilding our IPSC self image and look forward to future IPSC level 4 matches that will be the fantastic events that IPSC, RO's and 1200 shooters paying a lot of money on entry fee, travel and training all deserve.
Just my 0,02$ worth...You are welcome to share if you agree.
Nejake ilustracne FOTO:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 567&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 567&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 715&type=3
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5864DF0F
Pytal si sa ma co si mas obut na dane podmienky a hovoril som ti, ze ked zaprsi, tak ta vyzuje a voala.
Dufam ,ze si si zobral dake kanady!
Dufam ,ze si si zobral dake kanady!
Neda mi - ale vidim, ze na europskej urovni sa nechali inspirovat LOSkou. Konecne vidno utocnik v maskacoch, nepriatelsky vojak sa vyloduje na brehu rieky 
Pocasiu clovek nerozkaze, ale na tu uroven preteku za to startovne musi byt prostredie inak pripravene ...a ako pise - ked organizatori poznaju ake podmienky tam vedia nastat, tak to je uz velka hanba, ze sa nevedia poucit.
Pocasiu clovek nerozkaze, ale na tu uroven preteku za to startovne musi byt prostredie inak pripravene ...a ako pise - ked organizatori poznaju ake podmienky tam vedia nastat, tak to je uz velka hanba, ze sa nevedia poucit.
Urcite je potrebne sa stazovat do Kanady ako jednotlivci aj ako narodna asociacia. Skoda, ze valne zhromazdenie sa konalo (takticky) pred hlavnym pretekom. Pretek s tolkymi objektivne nerovnymi podmienkami nema vypovednu hodnotu. Ako vhodne riesenie mi pride pretek prekategorizovat na L3 a ME opakovat buduci rok pod taktovkou niekoho skuseneho a zodpovedneho.
Pre dokreslenie http://sticzub.rajce.idnes.cz/EHC_Hunga ... no_comment
Pre dokreslenie http://sticzub.rajce.idnes.cz/EHC_Hunga ... no_comment
Otvorený list CZ adresovaný organizácii IPSC: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9pVaM ... p=drivesdk
Na 99% sa nic z toho nestane, psy si postekaju a karavana pojde dalej.
Je (a z rozhovorov viem ze aj vela dalsich strelcov) budem volit peniazmi a na Vinceho preteky najblizsie 2 roky proste nepridem.
Ale skusenost to bola vyborna, nazorna ukazka toho, ze treba ovela viac makat, strielat len to co v klude clovek zvladne v ramci svojej komfortnej zony - nevymyslat prilis prekombinovane taktiky a nespoliehat sa tak moc na rychle nohy
Je (a z rozhovorov viem ze aj vela dalsich strelcov) budem volit peniazmi a na Vinceho preteky najblizsie 2 roky proste nepridem.
Ale skusenost to bola vyborna, nazorna ukazka toho, ze treba ovela viac makat, strielat len to co v klude clovek zvladne v ramci svojej komfortnej zony - nevymyslat prilis prekombinovane taktiky a nespoliehat sa tak moc na rychle nohy
vitaj v mojom puskovom svete 
Vincemu som nesiel tento rok ani na jednu sutaz, lebo som ich mal za minuly rok az az a vzdy som bol len rad, ze som tam i tento rok nesiel, lebo dobreho slova som nepocul@!
Vincemu som nesiel tento rok ani na jednu sutaz, lebo som ich mal za minuly rok az az a vzdy som bol len rad, ze som tam i tento rok nesiel, lebo dobreho slova som nepocul@!